Enter your email address to receive notifications of new posts by email. George Vincent Fosbery and produced by the Webley & Scott company from 1901 to 1924. When fired, recoil forces the action, cylinder, and barrel backwards on the frame which rotates the cylinder and cocks the action. I’d choose two extra high-velocity shots at a Fokker rather than an (ca1918) obsolete .455.. The Unique Webley–Fosbery Automatic Revolver Designed by British Col. George Vincent Fosbery and developed by the Webley & Scott Revolver and Arms Co. in 1900, the Webley–Fosbery Automatic Revolver is a recoil-operated revolver. Webley Fosbery Description: The Webley–Fosbery Self-Cocking Automatic Revolver is an unusual, recoil-operated, automatic revolver. The Webley-Fosbery Automatic Revolver is a revolver manufactured between 1901 and 1924 by Webley and Scott noteworthy for it's "automatic" mechanism. An interesting design but not what I would term soldier proof. Thus when fired, the grip stays in place and the barrel and cylinder assembly slides back, while a cam pin running in the conspicuous cylinder grooves rotates it to the next chamber and recocks the hammer.\. Last updated 29 December 2018 4:18AM. 19:50. Note the sides of the hammer are checkered; this is because to fire the revolver you must pull the hammer back to cock the action … Webley-Fosbery Automatic Revolver, caliber .455. That is, pulling the trigger both cocks and releases the hammer. This is a … J'ai fait recemment l'acquisition d'un révolver WEBLEY FOSBERY , modèle TARGET, bien entendu , c'est mieux pour un tireur ! Would it be possible for you to send me a photo or scan of that notice (to admin@forgottenweapons.com)? $22,500 . When the internal spring brings the assembly forward the stud revolves the cylinder completely, and the chamber lines up with the barrel. The final version of the Webley–Fosbery Automatic Revolver was released in 1914. It had a shorter cylinder than earlier models and the trigger spring and recoil lever were strengthened. Production models of the Webley-Fosbery are marked on the barrel rib: "Fosbery Auto Revolver," followed by "Made by the Webley & Scott Revolver & Arms Co." The revolvers will also bear the Webley trademark "flying bullet" on the left side of the barrel lug, Birmingham proof marks on the barrel, cylinder, and frame, and the serial number on the right side of the frame. They don’t make them any more.” Webley-Fosbery Model 1902 automatic revolver. guntubearchiver. The slight constriction at the end of the cylinder is designed to accomodate this – do not lap it out! (Note this was in a time where air to air combat was guys with pistols taking pot shots at each other. One may generate a fair collection of hot expended .303/8mm brass in the bottom of an early 20th century fighter, but they’re a long way from flammable, especially in the minus-temps at the reduced O2, X-thousand [choose your favorite measure] altitude. Webley-Fosbery Automatic Revolver The Webley-Fosbery’s frame had upper and lower halves, allowing the upper to slide back and forth on the lower. I would be very interested to see it. Produced October 20th 1903. Walter Winans, a famous contemporary target shooter, preferred the Webley–Fosbery, and in 1902 he used it to place six shots in a two-inch bull's-eye at 12 paces in seven seconds. Webley-Fosbery short bbl.jpg 793 × 614; 321 … The 45 caliber was only 6 shots. A variety of modifications led to the production of 6 different models, Marks I through VI. and many chose the W-F for it’s obvious automatic advantage. We are obligated to apply an orange ‘nose’ on a model! Any chance I could get a photocopy of this interesting document? The Webley–Fosbery is intended to be carried at full cock, ready to fire. The design of those moon clips was a bit different than what we are used to seeing today, with a pointed spiral sort of shape. The pistol could also be purchased with a single-shot .22 adapter for competitive target shooting; the cylinder was removed and it was inserted into the barrel. Virus scan. The Webley-Fosbery Self-Cocking Automatic Revolver was an unusual, recoil-operated, automatic revolver. Revolver Type. The ‘repeated use’ was a test based on over 600 rounds fired over a constant loading and firing. Webley-Fosbery Handgun.jpg 1,024 × 597; 257 KB. Ou peut-on trouver à acheter un Webley Fosbery.? That any revolver would not ‘over-heat’ with such a persistent firing is ludicrous. The guns were used by British pilots before machine guns became commonplace aircraft armament and they served well enough in that capacity. They could also be ordered with Metford (polygonal) rifling. Webley-Fosbery Automatic Revolver. The Webley–Fosbery is a recoil-operated revolver. Serial #15060, .455/.476, 6" barrel with an excellent, bright bore. The longer target barrel were also set up with sights more styled for competition, as the Webley-Fosbery was noted as a quite effective competition gun at the time. Semi-automatic pistols were just beginning to appear when Colonel Fosbery (1832–1907) … The Webley-Fosbery Automatic Revolver was the first commercially available automatic revolver. When the action-cylinder-barrel assembly moves back, either by hand-cocking or recoil, a pivoting lever connected to the frame cocks the hammer while a stud on the frame rides in the zig-zag grooves on the outer cylinder, revolving the next chamber part-way to ready position. Designed by Lieutenant Colonel George Vincent Fosbery VC and produced by Webley & Scott from 1901 to 1915, this revolver is easily recognizable by the zig-zag grooves on its cylinder. 1 History 1.1 Wartime usage 1.2 Cultural significance 2 Operation 3 References 4 Bibliography 5 External … It can only be set when the pistol is cocked. Semi-automatic pistols were just beginning to appear when Colonel Fosbery (1832–1907) devised a revolver that cocked the hammer and rotated the cylinder by sliding the action, cylinder and barrel assembly back on the frame. In Zardoz (1974), Sean Connery's character, Zed, uses a Webley–Fosbery revolver throughout the film.[6]. Once loaded the section is tilted back to lock closed. (Please don’t cite the ‘Hindenberg” nor for that matter, the ‘”Lusitania.” Both, at best, controversial.). It had a shorter cylinder than on earlier models and the trigger spring and recoil lever were strengthened. Revolvers take up 2x3 inventory slots. The Webley–Fosbery Self-Cocking Automatic Revolver was an unusual, recoil-operated, automatic revolver designed by Lieutenant Colonel George Vincent Fosbery, VC and produced by the Webley & Scott company from 1901 to 1924. In that caliber, the weapon had a 6-round cylinder. It has been commonly alleged that the Webley–Fosbery required a tight hold in order for the cylinder to properly cycle and cock the weapon. ...Click for more info. This is a Model 1902 variant. We … Fosbery patented his invention 16 August 1895 and further improvements were patented in June and October 1896. 13:30. 1.1. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=451756882. Webley Model 1896 WG Army Model Revolver with Holster . Uploaded by TactaGhoul. Your email address will not be published. In the Dashiell Hammett novel The Maltese Falcon and the 1941 Warner Bros film, Sam Spade's partner, Miles Archer, is shot and killed with a Webley–Fosbery Automatic Revolver. Webley Fosbery Automatic Revolver Caliber .455(UK), su securityarms.com. “Yes. .38 Super, intended & designed to punch through (1920’s & 1930’s) sheet-metal auto bodies…and whoever might be hiding behind that. The original Webley bullet has a hollow base like a Minie bullet which is designed to flare out as the bullet exits the cylinder. A pivoting lever on the side of the upper receiver is pressed to release the cylinder-barrel section, which tilts up and forward ("breaks") on a bottom-front pivot, simultaneously ejecting the contents of the cylinder chambers. WEBLEY-FOSBERY: AUTOMATIC - REVOLVER: ACCUEIL: Jeune retraité et tireur sportif, je m'intéresse surtout aux armes de poing du début du 20 ième siècle, période de fortes cogitations armurière. It was recoil-operated, and the cylinder and barrel recoiled backwards to cock the hammer and revolve the cylinder. You can see the cut-out area in the cylinder for the clips in this factory nickel-plated example: The more common caliber for the Webley-Fosbery was the .455 British service round, which did not use a clip. References ↑ Wikipedia - Webly-Fosbery Automatic Revolver; Name. In the 1972 short story Ali's Smile by William S Burroughs, the officer who shoots Ali in the Malayan market place uses a Webley .455 automatic revolver, firing six shots. The Webley-Fosbery is one of the few revolvers to feature a manual safety, which was necessary because of its manual of arms. Forgotten Weapons - Webley Model 1904 at James D Julia. GI#: 101613654. 152. There are a lot of ways to light an earlyWW1 fighter in flight on fire. The Webley-Fosbery had a following of both target shooters and Army officers, but it was ultimately not hugely successful and is remembered today promarily because of its unique mechanism. It is often assumed that the .38 caliber guns used .38-200 (aka .38 S&W) ammunition, because this was the round used in standard .38 caliber Webley revolvers – but that assumption is incorrect. To empty spent cases and reload, the procedure was identical to a typical Webley revolver. Seller: Webley Man . The most common model was a 6″ barrel and blued finish, but Webley was willing to make the guns in several other configurations. After about serial number 200 the markings were … Webley further developed the design and the Webley–Fosbery Automatic Revolver was introduced at the matches at Bisley of July 1900.[1]. At over 11 inches long and weighing some 44 ounces (1239 grammes) unloaded, the Webley–Fosbery was a heavy and unwieldy sidearm even by the standards of the day. Fosbery patented his invention 16 August 1895 and further improvements were patented in June and October 1896. Production ran from 1901 until 1924, generally at a rate of 10 guns per week, although there were periods where none were being made (such as during WWI, when production of standard Webley revolvers had much higher priority). However, Bogart says it's a "45 caliber, 8 shot," which is not correct because it would have to be a .38 caliber to be 8 shots. Forgotten Weapons - Stoner 63A Automatic Rifle - The Original Modular … bonjour, Endorsements. My Grandfather had once of these and carried it through WWI, initially as a Royal Navy gunnery officer and later flying Sopwith biplanes over the Western Front. Unique DLs-- Total DLs-- Total views. The Webley Fosbery was made in the British service calibre .455 (standard rimmed revolver cartridge) as a six shot weapon and also in .38ACP (.38 Automatic) as an eight shot weapon. To make this safe, a manual safety lever on the left side of the grip could be engaged, which would lock the trigger and the sliding frame both in place. The Webley-Fosbery Automatic Revolver as it appears in reality. The Webley-Fosbery Revolver was developed by Lieutenant Colonel George Vincent Fosbery VC and produced by Webley & Scott from 1901 to 1924. Portale Armi Portale Guerra Questa pagina è stata modificata per l'ultima volta il 14 mag 2019 alle 02:45. Several models of Webley–Fosbery revolvers were produced, and the type saw limited action in the Boer Wars as well as World War I, where some privately purchased examples were carried by British officers in the .455 service chambering. The Webley–Fosbery Self-Cocking Automatic Revolver is an unusual, recoil-operated, automatic revolver designed by Lieutenant Colonel George Vincent Fosbery VC and produced by the Webley & Scott company from 1901 to 1924. Additional improvements included removing the cylinder retaining latch from the side of the action. He was also an avid fan of guns and firearm technology, and the Webley-Fosbery was only one of his several relatively successful inventions (others include an exploding bullet used largely for range-finding and the Paradox system for shooting shot or ball relatively accurately through the same barrel). 30,198. Production ceased in 1924, with a total production of less than 5,000. As not only a shooter of the .38 Super but an advocate of the cartridge and bearing in mind the .455 is not only obsolete these days but…extinct? Original upload 08 December 2018 6:47AM. It also appears in the 2015 video game Verdun. Despote this, WWI British Officers were allowed to carry their own choice of revolver The Maltese Falcon 1941, The Webley-Fosbery was a relatively popular gun among fliers in WW1, in direct competition with the Colt 1911. Overall production was approximately 4200 pistols, although serial numbers go to approximately 4500 (a few blocks of numbers were skipped), and the vast majority of these were in .455 caliber. This caused the weapon to shake as it fired, reducing accuracy. Webley Fosbery Model 1902 .38 ACP 8 Shot. Under this invention the revolver is essentially distinguished from these patterns by the fact that the recoil causes the displacement toward the rear of the revolving magazine only. En faisant quelques recherches sur internet, j'ai découvert toute la complexité de sa … Of course, the US trials stipulated a .45 caliber cartridge, so Fosbery’s original goal of improving on the 6mm and 7mm early pistol cartridges already met. Webley-Fosbery Patent.jpg 1,024 × 594; 392 KB. His attempt to have it as ‘standard issue’ for Officers was not approved based on it’s propensity to ‘seize up’ due to over-heating on repeated use. Version. Download: Manual; 0 of 0 File information. The prototype was a modified Colt Single Action Army revolver. It was distinctive in that cam grooves were milled on the outside of the cylinder to provide a means of advancing to the next chamber—half a turn … (See ‘Bonnie & Clyde’) guntubearchiver. In early models, one-directional cylinder rotation was ensured by using a spring-loaded operating stud which rode cylinder grooves of varying depths. The Webley–Fosbery Self-Cocking Automatic Revolver was an unusual, recoil-operated, automatic revolver designed by Lieutenant Colonel George Vincent Fosbery, VC and produced by the Webley & Scott company from 1901 to 1924. Importance notice: Solid option – combined into one part firearm … Mauser Zig-Zag&Webley-Fosbery.jpg 1,536 × 2,048; 1.96 MB. The revolver is easily recognisable by the zig-zag grooves on the cylinder. In the 2017 anime Princess Principal, the main character, Ange, uses a Webley-Fosbery. Nickel finish was an option (not many produced this way, though). Tech. Especially in a basically pre-technological, proto, at best, world. In the original book, Sam Spade refers to it as a "Thirty-eight, eight shot. Cordialement. Webley-Fosbery Automatic Revolver ... Statistics; OpenStreetMap; Locator tool; Search depicted; Media in category "Webley-Fosbery" The following 6 files are in this category, out of 6 total. The Webley-Fosbery Automatic Revolver was the first commercial example, introduced in 1901. For aimed fire therefore, the shooter could manually cock the hammer as … The latch was replaced with a spring-loaded stud in the cylinder's top strap. Neither pulling the trigger nor manually cocking the hammer alone rotates the gun's cylinder; the entire assembly must be cocked to ensure that a chamber is properly lined up with the barrel. The Webley–Fosbery was available in several standard configurations with barrel lengths of 7.5 inches, 6 in, and 4 in, and was also made to order. If you will order model printed with dark colors or painted dark colors we will be obligated to add an orange nose on the end of the barrel. Some were made with the short frame in .455 calibre. Not exactly high-brow science. By the First World War, most revolvers were double-action. The trigger mechanism was single action only – so you could not carry it with the hammer down and fire by just pulling the trigger. Mechanically, the Webley-Fosbery operates by virtue of the barrel and cylinder assembly being independent of the grip assembly, the one riding in grooves machined into the other. When fired, the top was forced rearward during recoil, which cocked the hammer for the next shot. The revolver therefore has the unusual feature of a safety catch, which is found on the left side of the frame at the top of the grip. Bearing in mind these were the days when power was measured and reported based on exactly how many 1 inch pine boards it would shoot through. Fosbery was a career military officer who had served in India for many years (and won his Victoria Cross there in 1863). But the main (and rather silly) point here is there’s never been a doped-linen, WW1 aircraft ignughted by a hot shell casing. Unlike the simple technique used for ordinary revolvers, the Webley–Fosbery requires pulling the entire action-cylinder-barrel assembly back across the frame, a two-handed operation. The process of opening, emptying, and loading the Webley–Fosbery is identical to all other contemporary Webley revolvers. An internal spring then brings the assembly to ready position. URL consultato il 16 aprile 2012 (archiviato dall'url originale il 27 settembre 2007). Forgotten Weapons - Prototype Webley 1910 Pistol at James D Julia. The .38 version had a shorter cylinder, and thus shorter recoil stroke. While the .455 version had a standard 6-round cylinder, the .38 high velocity (.38 Colt ACP) version had eight chambers and could be loaded by a circular full-moon clip. The final version of the Webley–Fosbery was released in 1914. The cylinder is made with a slight taper at the front end, which some modern shooters think is a fault and attempt to modify.. This design was found to be needlessly complex and in the later models a fixed stud rode grooves of a uniform depth, with overshoot grooves set at the angle of the zig-zag to prevent the stud from permitting the cylinder to turn backwards. The Webley-Fosbery revolvers built based on designs by Lt. Col. G. V. Fosbery are among the rarest and most interesting of all revolvers and are some of the few "automatic" revolver designs. ", so the script writer changed it, wrongly, from the original (believing Hammett had made a mistake, and it must be a .45 automatic, like those carried by Elisha Cook's character in the movie.). Webley Fosbery Automatic Revolver Model 1900, su antiquestopic.com. Area Code: 619 . Pistol shows minimal use with perfect bore, about 80% blue with perfect grips. Minor area with pitting (see photo of top). .455in SAA Ball .455in SAA Ball ammunition, Learn how and when to remove this template message, World Guns, Modern Firearms: Handguns - Webley-Fosbery automatic revolver, Video of a Webley–Fosbery, showing self-cocking action, Webley Fosbery Automatic Revolver Caliber .455(UK), Webley Fosbery Automatic Revolver Model 1900, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Webley–Fosbery_Automatic_Revolver&oldid=997510381, Weapons and ammunition introduced in 1901, Articles needing additional references from October 2020, All articles needing additional references, Short description is different from Wikidata, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License, This page was last edited on 31 December 2020, at 21:40.